Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Bill Nye vs Ken Ham

In this corner: Ken Ham, owner operator of the "Creation Museum", who believes the world is only 6000 yrs old, and that bible stories are true.1

His Opponent: Bill Nye, Science Guy, who brings out evidence of Evolution, age of the planet, biology and astronomy.


The first 30 minutes of Ken Ham was him showing videos of other Creationists saying the biblical story of creation was true, that Adam and Eve were real, and the planet was only 6000 years old. ("Wait...let me show you 5 more videos of my friends agreeing with me." )He applied this meme as proof of how accurate the bible is:

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Every time there was a question without an answer, he would fall back on "There is a book that tells us where this came from."  He also seems to want a 4.5 billion year old scientist who was around when the planet was formed to declare it was formed around said scientist.

Ken Ham then decided to label certain scientific terms "Creationism terms".  (I could strap a feather duster to on my cat, won't make him a peacock)

Bill Nye: Cited scientific discoveries, proven science, plate tectonics, and basic math to prove Ken's Creationist world was just wrong. There is no way that 7.5 billion people could have been the result of the mating of two individuals (Three, if you take the Adam/Eve story into account, as Eve and her son Seth had an incestuous relationship). That Noah's Ark could not have held even every "kind" of animal (Yes, Fail Again Ken tried to say all species of birds are descendants of one KIND of bird, every species of deer came from one KIND of deer. etc etc). Because if that were true, in a world that is only 6000 yrs old, we would have discovered 11 to 16 new species a day.

Trees that have growth rings, one of them 9500 yrs old. The Great Pyramids, pre-dating the Bible, You name it. And when Bill Nye was asked "Where did atoms come from before the big bang?"  he answered honestly with "No one knows."

of course Ken fell back on his book of stolen fables as "There is a book with the answers." which in all seriousness, is no answer.

Then Ken went to bible predictions. Predictions which are so vague that a carnival Tarot Card reader could do better.

Lets move onto the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Creationists like to claim this is proof of creationism, but they're forgetting one extremely important fact: The earth is not a closed system. It's influenced by solar and cosmic energy and forces.

Ken also said "Scientists didn't understand that diseases came from bacteria."...  True, but when scientist discovered this, they changed texts and information to reflect this.  Whereas there are still Fundie Creationists that still believe that diseases are caused by demons.

Winner: Bill Nye, Science Guy.

Oh, and a clue about the Creation Museum, and why an Australian built it in the US and not his own back yard.  He can't open it here as a "Fact Based Museum" because it isn't. Aussie laws state he would have to open it as a Fantasy or Christian Theme Park/Museum, kind of like DINOTOPIA, not as a Natural History Museum.

1Actually, he said only certain ones, ones he has picked, are true, the rest are poetry and stories to learn and live by. Wonder how he decided.

 

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